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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:34 am 
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I discovered a weird thing in SMBX with LunaDLL. There's actually 8 more NPC's that we didn't knew about. It's NPC-293, NPC-294, NPC-295, ... , NPC-300. Normally, those NPC's are invisible, but you can make them visible by inserting a graphic. Of course it must be in "GIF" format.
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Those NPC's are all the same. I mean they have same behaviours.
For example, they can be frozen, but if you'll unfreeze them, they won't move:
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They can walk on lava(!):
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They can't be defeated by Peach's Heart Bombs, Link's Lasers, Toad's Boomerangs, Mario's/Luigi's Hammers and Fireballs:
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They can't be defeated by Rainbow Shells:
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They can't walk on Switch Block's Outlines, but can walk on Switch Blocks:
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Also, you can die/lose your power-up, if that NPC will touch Clown Car:
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Note: you can't defeat those NPC's by a Clown Car.
If your buried Hammer Bro will throwing those NPC's, they still will be able to walk on the ground and they won't defeat each other:
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Those NPC's can't be defeated by Veggies, Mushroom Blocks, Pot Piranha Plants, Bombs and even by Metal Pipes (Metal Pipes will just push those NPC's):
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If NPC will stand on a hittable block, you won't be able to defeat it:
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Those NPC's can't be defeated by SMB3 Ice Blocks and player's Ice Blocks:
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Also, if you'll try to kick some NPC on those secret NPC's, kicked NPC will defeat itself:
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You can't defeat those NPC's by a Boot, by Link's Shield, by jumping on them and by spin-jumping on them.
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Those NPC's can also walk on platforms:
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Also, those NPC's are very fast.
NPC's after 300, like NPC-301, NPC-368, NPC-3360 or NPC-368687 will crash your SMBX. You'll got this error:
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There's also another secret NPC - it's NPC-0. Well, it actually doesn't do anything, it doesn't hurt you and you can't even see it.
Also, I didn't tested all those NPC's with a Notepad, maybe they have more behaviours. So yeah, that's it for today.


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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:43 am 
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Wow, amazing discovery! Maybe it's a dummy NPC that Redigit made as a test.

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:03 am 
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Those NPCs can be also some new NPCs which redigit was making.

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:20 am 
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Thanks DrLuigi. I forgot to write more behaviours like for shells and Yoshis. I'll test it tomorrow and I will write it here. Also I think that was the longest post in the forum!

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:37 pm 
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h2643 wrote:
they can be freezed
h2643 wrote:
They can't be defeated by Peach's Heart Bombs, Link's Lasers, Toad's Boomerangs, Mario's/Luigi's Hammer's and Fireballs

METROIDS!!! We can use them to make Metroids! Valtteri, come quick!

Also:
they can be *frozen. "Freezed" isn't a word.

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:54 pm 
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Sounds like some NPCs redigit never finished

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:07 pm 
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Imaynotbehere4long wrote:
METROIDS!!! We can use them to make Metroids! Valtteri, come quick!


Only problem is that they can't fly. Because Ridley.

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:48 am 
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I found more behaviours:
Those NPC's can't be defeated by Koopa Shells:
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Can't be defeated by a Statue, I even tried to "slide" into NPC, but it didn't defeated him:
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NPC can be eaten by Yoshi and you will gather 100 points(!):
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But it can't be defeated by Yoshi's Fireballs and Yoshi's Ice Cubes:
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NPC can't be defeated by Racoon's/Tanooki's Tail, also.
NPC stops moving when the Time Clock/Green P-Switch activated:
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NPC can't be defeated by friendly Bullet Bill Blaster:
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It also can't be defeated by SMW Grinder:
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NPC can stay on top of other NPC's (on which Mario can stand too):
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NPC reacts with water and quicksand (it slows down a bit):
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NPC can react with Conveyor Belt like every other normal NPC:
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If you will freeze 2 NPC's and throw them to each other in their frozen form, they of course will defeat themselfs.
So, right now I must test those NPC's with notepad and I'll try to slide into it, maybe slide can defeat them.


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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:28 am 
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Murphmario wrote:
Imaynotbehere4long wrote:
METROIDS!!! We can use them to make Metroids! Valtteri, come quick!


Only problem is that they can't fly.

1) Place the new NPC (make sure "Don't Move" is set to "yes") on a block-like NPC (i.e., npc-45), then remove player collision from said block-like NPC.
2) Make sure the block-like NPC is on a layer, then attach a friendly invisible paratroopa to said layer.
3) Sprite-swap the new NPC with a Metroid.

Ta-da! You now have a flying Metroid that can only be killed by ice. Sure, it may still need a bit of work and testing, but it's a start.
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Because Ridley.

...what?
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And that NPC can't be defeated by Thwomp

You say that as if there IS an NPC that can be defeated by Thwomps (there isn't). You might be thinking of deadweight NPCs, such as 58 or 67.

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 Post subject: Re: Secrets in SMBX
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:34 am 
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I already said about NPC-67 that it just pushes that secret NPC on a side. Not sure about NPC-58.

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