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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:02 pm 
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Following your statement, anybody here that doesn't use SMBX should leave this place, correct?

People that are affected by flashing images shouldn't be here, yeah.

Let me clarify the question, anybody here that doesn't use SMBX should leave this place, correct?
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How can you tell? You're not wearing his shoes, you can't assure something you don't feel.

He hasn't said or done anything to prove to us that this is a real issue. We don't know if people are affected by it and we can't just take knux's word for granted.

There's no proof it isn't a real issue either. You won't leave the boat until you verify with your own eyes that there's a leak? Once you realize it might be too late.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:07 pm 
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Let me clarify the question, anybody here that doesn't use SMBX should leave this place, correct?

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There's no proof it isn't a real issue either

The burden of proof is on Knux, not us. It's like saying: "There's a soccer ball floating in space in close proximity to the sun. What I said is true because nobody can prove me wrong."


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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:11 pm 
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Let me clarify the question, anybody here that doesn't use SMBX should leave this place, correct?

no

There you go then. Besides, not changing something at the point of not caring about how it would affect the userbase physically to the point of telling them "then you should leave" is pretty much unprofessional. If you care about the community, you need to make changes attractive enough so people would start coming and stop leaving.
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There's no proof it isn't a real issue either

The burden of proof is on Knux, not us. It's like saying: "There's a soccer ball floating in space in close proximity to the sun. What I said is true because nobody can prove me wrong."

You're starting to understand my point. Yes, the burden of proof is on Knux, so instead of saying he's wrong we need certain proofs. That is, if the staff actually cares about possible physical damage that the forum inflicts to the userbase.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:16 pm 
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There you go then. Besides, not changing something at the point of not caring about how it would affect the userbase physically to the point of telling them "then you should leave" is pretty much unprofessional. If you care about the community, you need to make changes attractive enough so people would start coming and stop leaving.

...nobody left because of a single rank.
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You're starting to understand my point. Yes, the burden of proof is on Knux, so instead of saying he's wrong we need certain proofs. That is, if the staff actually cares about possible physical damage that the forum inflicts to the userbase.

You don't understand what I said. So, Knux says, "The kamikaze koopa rank needs to be removed because it is seizure-inducing" without showing evidence. In this case, the staff isn't obliged to fulfill Knux's request because it's ungrounded. Knux's assertion that the rank is dangerous to users doesn't qualify as proof.


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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:18 pm 
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Knux's assertion that the rank is dangerous to users doesn't qualify as proof.

How the hell do you need proof that a flashing image causes seizures?

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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:20 pm 
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Kep wrote:
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Knux's assertion that the rank is dangerous to users doesn't qualify as proof.

How the hell do you need proof that a flashing image causes seizures?

You're missing the point. You do need proof that a single rank is potentially dangerous to the users of this community.


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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:20 pm 
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Kep wrote:
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Knux's assertion that the rank is dangerous to users doesn't qualify as proof.

How the hell do you need proof that a flashing image causes seizures?


There needs to be proof that the Spark and Shell ranks cause seizures.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:21 pm 
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There you go then. Besides, not changing something at the point of not caring about how it would affect the userbase physically to the point of telling them "then you should leave" is pretty much unprofessional. If you care about the community, you need to make changes attractive enough so people would start coming and stop leaving.

...nobody left because of a single rank.

So? I'm not referring to actions that the userbase has done because of those words, I'm talking about the attitude.
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You're starting to understand my point. Yes, the burden of proof is on Knux, so instead of saying he's wrong we need certain proofs. That is, if the staff actually cares about possible physical damage that the forum inflicts to the userbase.

You don't understand what I said. So, Knux says, "The kamikaze koopa rank needs to be removed because it is seizure-inducing" without showing evidence. In this case, the staff isn't obliged to fulfill Knux's request because it's ungrounded. Knux's assertion that the rank is dangerous to users doesn't qualify as proof.

If people ignore this problem because they have no proof of this being a real issue it just shows how unconnected the community is in reality. What do you guys want exactly? A note from a doctor proving Knux's difficulty to look at those ranks? C'mon guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:23 pm 
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What do you guys want exactly? A note from a doctor proving Knux's difficulty to look at those ranks? C'mon guys.

Yes. I would like to see that.

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 Post subject: Re: Ranks
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:26 pm 
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Valtteri wrote:
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What do you guys want exactly? A note from a doctor proving Knux's difficulty to look at those ranks? C'mon guys.

Yes. I would like to see that.

Look, I kind of understand where you're coming from, but you've also got to understand that Knux is an honest user. I doubt he would lie about a flashing image hurting his eyes. In fact, it even hurts my eyes a bit and I am not prone to seizures or anything.

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